<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">tom,<div><br></div><div>yes, fan belt is only a season old, in good shape and snug.</div><div><br></div><div>q: if the heat exchanger is cool to warm, and not hot, is that a 'symptom'? and if yes, of what?</div><div><br></div><div>pjw</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 1, 2009, at 1:22 PM, <a href="mailto:tjsoko@aol.com">tjsoko@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><wbr>Steve,<br>Because of the way it is constructed (in one end, out the other), and because brass/bronze conducts heat so well, the whole thing would probably be hot. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><br>Paul,<br>I know this is a really stupid question, but I have to ask it, because it happened to me. Is the "fan belt" in one piece and operating properly? If not, your circulating pump won't be circulating any water, and the engine would overheat right away, yet water would still be coming out the exhaust.<br><br>Tom Soko<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Steven Jones <<a href="mailto:stevengjones@yahoo.com">stevengjones@yahoo.com</a>><br>To: Catalina 36 Association Mailing List <<a href="mailto:c36list@c36ia.com">c36list@c36ia.com</a>><br>Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:39 pm<br>Subject: Re: [C36IA] engine temp #2<br><br><div id="AOLMsgPart_3_f19d6ff7-3370-436d-a3bc-9143f5db9b87"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; ">Paul,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>I have had recent experience with removing and replacing the heat exchanger.<br>But first, if you suspect this may be the issue, it's very easy to remove the round end plates off both ends to check inside.<br>When replacing, each has two gaskets, one large one the size of the round end cap, the other a small o-ring to seal the bolt- this ring goes on the inside of the plate I think, check while removing yours.<br><br>If you have to remove it, it's not hard, less than an hour to undo the hoses and remove the clamps that hold it.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Refer to Fred J's email about two weeks ago how he held the two-stiff- holding straps to get the bold started. I did the exact same thing a year ago!<br>Good recommendation.<br><br>But one thing, if the H/E (heat exchanger is the problem, wouldn't one end by hot to the touch? Tom S?<br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Attached is a photo of what one should look like looking down the axis (more or less) of a clean H/E.<br>AND.... a little photo-write up I did about the pencil zinc which shows crud before having it cleaned<br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="text-decoration: underline; "></span><font size="2"><span style="font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font size="2"><span style="font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; ">Steven Jones 2164 Seal Beaach CA</span></font><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Paul Jay Walchenbach <<a href="mailto:pjwalch@sprynet.com">pjwalch@sprynet.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Catalina 36 Association Mailing List <<a href="mailto:c36list@c36ia.com">c36list@c36ia.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:12:02 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[C36IA] engine temp #2<br></font><br>the leaking 'water' was in the pan/tray below the oil pan and engine and not in the oil (no evidence of water in the oil, no froth).<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">green coolant overflow level normal in cockpit locker. thru hull open, strainer clean, water splashing out exhaust.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">i am thinking thermostat or heat exchanger. question is, how to i trouble shoot to isolate the problem?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">if it is the heat exchanger, how do i 'clean' or if needed, replace? </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; 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