[C36IA] Lifting dingy on foredeck-LIFTING HARNESS

Mon Jun 1 13:01:34 EDT 2009

My Achilles comes with three lifting eyes, one forward in the bow (inside
the dingy), and two drilled through the transom with the eyes on the inside.
If your dingy has a wood transom, you could mount two stainless steel eye
bolts there. Forward you¹d probably have to attach to the bow painter
fitting.

As far as the harness, Forespar makes the best but they are very expensive
because of the three snap shackles. Go look at one to see how they are
designed (you¹ll need webbing, sliders, shackles, and a 2² stainless steel
ring), then go to an REI (or maybe SailRite) or anyplace that sells 2²
webbing and webbing fittings and make your own (you can easily sew two-inch
webbing on a home sewing machine). Use shackles instead of snap shackles to
save cost. You¹re not dealing with a great amount of weight for the average
dingy.

Walter Conner
S/V Endless Summer 
C36 #1314
Seattle, WA

On 6/1/09 9:43 AM, "Phil Lindholm" <pclindholm at hotmail.com> wrote:

> While we're on the subject, I have a Kato Marine davit system, but my lifting
> harness is, well, substandard.  Has anyone created their own, and if so, what
> was the design?  I've got a 10 ft zodiac (with a 3 piece floorboard system,
> not a RIB), and am now using the bow painter and aft handles, which is
> inappropriate at best.  I hate using glue points for lifting.  The West Marine
> harness is way over-priced for what it is.
>  
> Phil Lindholm
> Sun Soleil #400
>  
>> > Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 08:58:24 -0700
>> > From: walterconner at comcast.net
>> > To: c36list at c36ia.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C36IA] Lifting dingy on foredeck
>> > 
>> > Thanks for all your help, Chic. This method definitely works great.
>> > 
>> > Now that I understand this a little better, I'd also want to try out Paul
>> > Jay Walchenbach's method where you lift the dingy vertically using the bow
>> > painter. When I initially tried this I had attached the snap shackle of the
>> > lifting line directly to the bow eye, which is fairly deep under my boat >>
and
>> > difficult to unsnap when the boat is in the water (plus we've got very cold
>> > water here in Puget Sound).
>> > 
>> > Reading Paul's email again, I think I can just tie a figure eight know
>> about
>> > two feet up on the bow painter and attach the shackle to that. The
>> advantage
>> > is there is less drag on the dingy coming up out of the water (it doesn't
>> > rub against the boat as much) and it may be easier to place the boat on the
>> > foredeck since you're just lowering the pointed ends first to the deck and
>> > can position the dingy fairly easily that way. Disadvantage is it would be
>> > tough to do on a windy day with the dingy that far up in the air...
>> (world's
>> > most expensive kite).
>> > 
>> > I'll definitely use the three-point method, but would like to experiment
>> > with Paul's method when I get a low wind day. Both methods are a world of
>> > difference over that way I was doing it....my spinnaker line just seems to
>> > have a lot of friction by the time its lead all the way back to the
>> cockpit.
>> > By going from an overhead block hung on the spinnaker halyard directly to
>> > the anchor windlass, it's now almost effortless to raise the dingy. I have
a
>> > much happier wife. Once I figure out the definitive way, I'll take some
>> > pictures and post on the web.
>> > 
>> > Thanks to everyone for their help.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Walter Conner
>> > S/V Endless Summer
>> > C36 #1314
>> > Seattle, WA
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On 6/1/09 4:18 AM, "chic Lasser" <classer1 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>> > 
>>> > > walter since this was my technigue I will suggest you do what I do when
>>> > > liftng the dink out of the water. On our dink I remove the engine and
all
>>> > > the assundry stuff off the transom hook the harness up (bow and two aft)
and
>>> > > walk the dink along the side of the boat hand over hand, at the point
>>> where
>>> > > lifting I attach lifting lne stand on seat and hop over the rail. While
>>> > > doing this my wife holds the dink using the lifting harness, once on
>>> deck I
>>> > > follow procedure I outlined last week and viola its up. Chic
>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > > From: "Walter Conner" <walterconner at comcast.net>
>>> > > To: "Catalina 36 Association Mailing List" <c36list at c36ia.com>
>>> > > Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:20 PM
>>> > > Subject: Re: [C36IA] Lifting dingy on foredeck
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>>> > >> I tried it today using just a single block hung about 15 ft off the
>>>> deck on
>>>> > >> the spinnaker halyard, with one end going to the dingy and the other
to
>>>> > >> the
>>>> > >> windlass. Worked like a charm.
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> I did used a three-point harness on the dingy (the painter eye on our
>>>> > >> dingy
>>>> > >> is fairly far under water and it's hard to unsnap a snap shackle when
the
>>>> > >> boat is in the water.) Only issue was keeping the dingy away from the
hull
>>>> > >> as it was lifted.
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> On 5/31/09 12:11 PM, "grifftoe at frontier.net" <grifftoe at frontier.net>
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> 
>>>>> > >>> Hola, especially for those of us who don't have engineering degrees
>>>>> > >>> I've attached a picture of a 2:1 lifting rig, I hope this helps
>>>>> > >>> illustrate my earlier explanation:
>>>>> > >>> 
>>>>> > >>> John Griffiths
>>>>> > >>> SV Pegasus C36 #1353
>>>>> > >>> lying San Carlos, Sonora
>>>>> > >>> tel (Mexico) 622-112-2619
>>>>> > >>> http://www.frontier.net/~grifftoe
>>>>> > >>> -
>>>>> > >>> This email is virus-free,it has been checked by Norton Anti-Virus.
>>>>> > >>> 
>>>>> > >>> grifftoe at frontier.net wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>> The 2:1 tackle takes two snatch blocks and a 70' (or longer)
length
>>>>>> > >>>> of lifting line...
>>>>> > >>> 
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