C36 std or tall rig

[therobesons]

What are the differances in a std and tall rig on a 1985 c-36.

I think it is about 2 feet or so, but what/how is the differance in sailing performance?

TIA

Bob

[therobesons]

Does one have more spreaders or somethings to tell you which is which or do you have to measure to be sure?

Thanks

Bob

[TomSoko]

Bob,
Welcome back to "The family"! There are a number of differences between the tall rig and std rig. The mast is 2' taller (52' vs 50'), the boom is longer (13' vs 12'), and the rated sail area is greater (601 vs 555). In PHRF ratings, the difference is 5-10 seconds. Hope this helps.

[therobesons]

That was just what I was looking for.

Thanks

[dejavu]

Hi Bob. If you're "dock crawling" looking at boats, the quickest way to tell the tall rig is the small wooden bowsprit on the bow of the tall rig 36s. Being in San Pedro and enjoying our light winds, a tall rig might give you a bit better performance. Were you in an area of heavy winds (ex: Bay area) I'd say you wouldn't need it.

Mike

[TomSoko]

Mike,
The C30 tall rig has a short wooden bow sprit, but the C36 does not. The C36 tall rig looks just like the std rig C36, except for the differences noted earlier. I have seen pictures of a highly modified C36 with a bow sprit, but it didn't come from the factory that way.

[wfahey]

Thanks Tom

I had someone stop by the slip last Sunday and they wanted to argue that our boat was not a Tall rig because it didn't have a bow sprit. He than asked if I wanted to sell the boat to him. I declined. He walked 2 slips down and started talking to our neighbors with the houseboat. I later found out he asked if they wanted to sell their houseboat.

[Nimue]

Has anyone tried putting the longer boom onto a short rig boat? Any worthwhile performance improvement?

[Sojourn]

Probably not worth the cost: new boom, sail and mid boom stress by moving the main sheet center of effort farther forward. Adding to the luff is more effective than adding to the foot. If you're going to race. You'll incur a penalty for modifying the sail plan. In general, go for the biggest sailplan offered. It is easy enough to reef the main or work with a smaller headsails for regions that are generally windy, that is, steady winds at or above 18 knots as the norm.

Lou Bruska
Sojourn C36 MKI 1985 Hull 495
Lake Michigan

[Nimue]

Well, I wouldn't worry about the stress on the boom, since the Tall rig boats do it and still have an even larger sail. I need a new mainsail anyways, and the racing hit will be 3 seconds on my phrf.

The other possible benefit would be that the longer boom might allow the traveller to be moved to the cockpit in front of the steering pedestal. That was actually what got me thinking about this in the first place. I know one TR boat in Puget sound has made this mod and is happy with it.

Just wondering if anyone has done it to see if there is actually any performance advantage.

[dejavu]

Mike,
The C30 tall rig has a short wooden bow sprit, but the C36 does not. The C36 tall rig looks just like the std rig C36, except for the differences noted earlier. I have seen pictures of a highly modified C36 with a bow sprit, but it didn't come from the factory that way.

Oops, my bad.:)

Mike